Flobo Boyce

Today on The Jay Allen Show, Jay speaks with comedian, DJ, host, streamer, and all-around great guy Flobo Boyce. During the conversation, Flobo discusses his career, his love for streaming, podcasting, and professional wrestling. Flobo also discusses the current stage of streaming.

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[00:00:03] spk_0: this show is brought to you by safety FM. Well, hello and welcome to this edition of the J. Allen show. Yes, I know it is Friday, but this is not going to be a safety FM. Many just want to give you the fair warning. So here's what's going on today as I've had the opportunity to get to meet all kinds of different people. Today I have a conversation with global voice. He is a comedian master of ceremonies and an award winning DJ, and I have to tell you, I did find flow Bow hanging out online on this website called matchmaker dot FM. It's kind of one of those websites where you can find people to interview. But I have to tell you if Lobo has changed a lot of things as of recent, and I'm talking about when it comes to the world of screaming. So I took the opportunity to hang out with Globo for us to discuss different things about himself and also the impact of streaming on what we do day in and day out. So I hope you sit back and enjoy this special edition of the J. Allen show instead of the traditional safety FM. Many today. So take a listen and enjoy this conversation with flow. Both voice on the J. Allen show where we talk about everything. Enjoy it now. Safety FF changing safety cultures. What? One broadcast and one podcast at a time. Okay, let's go. I used a little Florida back in the day. I'm sorry. I apologize already for that. It's college. Man got in the paper. That the hell out. What area? In Florida, if you don't mind me asking. I went to Flagler. Oh, Oh. Saying Augustine such a beautiful city. I was the only black out there with them. So that had to be an interesting experience, because that is definitely like an older city. Um, ghost town, of course, depending on how you know how you want to relive the college life. Oh, yeah, Absolutely. I came from Brooklyn, if you can imagine that. So, going from a metro area of 11 million people having thousands, even things closed at, like, 6 p.m. That was my 18 to 21 man living large. Well, no. I mean, it's a different world over there. I mean, any time that you come to Florida, you know that it's a retirement community. Regardless, with the exception of Miami, Miami is just a kind of a miniature version of Cuba. Um, but everything else is just kind of one of those things where, yeah, I mean, it gets a little bit later in the day and it's done. It's pretty much over. Yeah, but I was. I really wanted to go to out of State and it was dirt cheap at the time. Yeah, I mean, New York to Florida. Everything's dirt cheap in comparison. But even a private college man, a private college was pretty cheap. And and it was like 10,007 everything plan at the time. And so I made a big campaign. My parents, my parents were like, Fine, just if you fail, it's okay. We got Columbia. Just go have some fun. And so I stuck with it. So what about So what about the communication program there at Flagler? Kind of got you excited leaving New York to go there at the time. It was like, you know, you got to do news and like the more ground on the ground stuff, this is before the Florida man thing became like a thing. But there's a city with the beaches. There's a city with the alligator farm. There was the the ghost hunting stuff. I was a history buff. You know, my parents are Caribbean. So, like the whole, like the New World Discovery thing was cool. I thought the place to start, and then I got through it. I was like, I want to film and I totally crap can my first four years of news gathering to do film instead. So But here's the interesting aspect on the stuff that we were able to find about you. You've done a lot of interesting things from where you started to where you're at. I mean, the earliest we could find was a production assistant will say a bank just in case. If you don't want to call them out by name. Yeah, yeah, that was it. That was actually changed my life. It's It's Citigroup. I wasn't sure. I wasn't sure. Some people hate their former employers. I was like, I don't want to say it. Then we'll be like those. I feel like I'm out. I'm out. I'm not talking to you. I got plenty of those good players I hate, but yeah, it was why you have a team. That's what's up. I was going to go into finance when I was in high school. I was in this program called the Academy of Finance, and the idea was that put you in these internships during the summer between a junior senior year, your senior year to get into the more of the real words. Three words stuff. Academy Finance was co founded by Sandy Weill, who at the time was CEO of Citigroup. So a lot of the internships for at that bank. And so I went there at 17 years old, my only shirt button down, uh, and and they looked at my resume and say, Hey, you know, you know, Photoshop. This is like the old photos 5.5, You know what I mean? Like it was before the cool stuff like, yeah, so if you mean to media services and so they called that industrials, But to me, it was a whole different world. I don't have the worst suit. I got to create stuff to make a company look good, and that internship actually changed my entire perspective. as to what I wanna do in my life. So corporate finance was great. The money was great on the table, But I was like I wanted to create and not wear a tie. Well, and hopefully that's the angle you were able to go with when it was all said and done. I mean, it's a crazy, winding road. I think I'm still in live entertainment. Yeah, sure. But like, yeah, I go back to that particular former employer and I realized that this was a game changer. Well, but here's the thing. You've done quite a few things throughout your career and we'll talk about some of those, if you don't mind. And I have to tell you, I thought it was kind of funny on how we're able to find each other. You found me on matchmaker, which automatically people automatically think that it's a dating website. Especially when you start you start going through the description. Oh, yes. I'm interviewing somebody from matchmaker dot FM. What? I'm gonna try. But so what I loved was your comment. When you responded back, you and I went back and forth like I am not sure what a safety FM is which I love that that's always the best part. What? I hear something like that. Because that's the thing we What we do is we actually talk about safety mostly. But what I like to do is interview people that have nothing to do with safety at the same time to. But you're in a career aspect where you're doing a lot of online stuff. You've actually done real world stuff for a major media group, which I can name if you want me to. I'm never sure. Okay. I just wanna just wanna make sure. So you did some stuff with Fox, so you you've been there. So now you're seeing a lot of the stuff coming into the in home streaming a lot of people trying to do all of this. Where are we getting lost in translation? Because I'm sure you're noticing that people are not doing a great job. They're trying their best, but we're still losing some of some of the platform from the major media. What do you think? You know, when everything is shut down A year ago about this time you it really was like the gold rush all over again for for a second there when these giant companies didn't know how to pivot. Because you're at the Titanic, right? How they changed. It was like, Well, how do we try to bring these experiences out there? I come from now I am a comedian. Now I d j weddings. How do we do this virtual thing that these big guys aren't doing yet? And I really thought that was a kind of cool thing. But you know, whenever there's money involved as resources and this rich billionaires being like Okay, how do we get back on top? I mean, it was only a matter of time until now. Things look more slicker for these kind of companies, but I think that the lost in translation thing really comes from a change of what is important and what isn't. I had to be told by the world that what I did live entertainment was non essential. And I was in my feelings for a long time during the lockdown. But then really, to focus on what was important and what wasn't so like on the comedy side of things, I got to dabble in music, another dabbling, putting levity to my podcast more then saying okay, if it's not a joke, if soundstage doesn't count. Yeah, well, you say that, but your podcast and some of the streams that you do don't always just go about anything related to comedy and music and so on. You are heavily involved. What's my hidden love that I don't discuss a lot about with wrestling? You You talk about wrestling. I'm kind of shocked that I don't see the belt in the background because I normally see it in some of your other shots. The actor. I don't see it currently. Um, holidays. I think I got right. I got dragged for it doing the more the elevator. I had the belt back. Right? So you do have a love for professional wrestling in recently, you had somebody on that does the after show for 83 weeks, I will tell you I have loved Bischoff for as long as I can remember. Um So where did the love come about or professional wrestling for you since day one. And I grew up in New York, where WWF was the local federation, because back then, the territories and stuff, it's cool to see him like my home will blow up. Uh, but But after cartoons on Saturday and Sunday, we have an hour of these lives superheroes and they'll they'll. And I think you didn't know that on the weekend shows that gave them the second tier or third tier stars. So it was a huge fan of, like, Duke the Dumpster. Drozd like the talk, was my hero because you never lost a match for like two years back, so you don't see Antenna was big on that weekend. Show to, uh, say it's no talk about those guys, man. Uh, but the thing is, it's to me. To this day, it's the It's the best character work on television. I tell people it's like Shakespeare in the round for the masses, and I get laughed at usually. But but to answer your question when I do, my show is called Draped in Gold or recover N x t and N x t u k I treated as if it's like Skip and Shannon undisputed or speak for yourself. I'm not going. I don't know what you're writing this week. It's like it's like, Oh my God, Seth Rollins, come back What's that mean for his squad? Jack and I Really, the fact that so hyper realistic becomes absurd and therefore a lot more fun to listen to. Well, I mean, the thing is that a lot of people don't understand some of the psychology that comes out of professional wrestling, And I think that if people could kind of understand some of the things that are related there, how it translates so much better over now, this might be slightly controversial. But if you take a look at some of the aspects of what Donald Trump did and it is original, when he was trying to run for president back in 2016, it looked like he had taken a page out of McMahon's book, Uh, and how he was running it. At least that's my opinion. What do you think that is? Absolutely true. So I'm gonna try to tread lightly here. Well, how they're feeling. I know, but like you think about the structure of what the primary is, it's you and many, many other opponents in your camp, and you look at someone like President Trump who took each opponent and found one thing one weakness and hammered it over and over again. You go. You know what? Jeb Bush doesn't get excited enough. You know what I mean? Like And so people went with the guy. Because if it makes you feel something, if you connect with someone, I live in Los Angeles today. And once you go out of Los Angeles proper like into the mountains or down South, there's there's a lot more of Trump supporters. And when you say, Hey, look, what about this individual that you like so much? Because in L. A. It's like, Wait, we don't. But if you go outside and say, Why is it to go? Well, he tells it like it is. He is speaking to me, and that's universal. Doesn't matter if you play the cello. It doesn't matter if you own a business. If people feel something, what you create, then it's a done deal, man. It's It's the undisputed era with him. No, I'm joking. I'm joking. As I say that I have some strange questions. I know that you talked a little bit at the beginning. What you've been doing. So right now I know that you you have your own entertainment company and it looks like you assist people in regards of building some other plans. Do you go as far in as in streaming and helping out? People were doing the set up and doing the proper way and kind of getting the whole thing set up as well. If you would ask me about two months ago, I would have said no, But the answer is yes, I do. I do everything I do. There's actually a show on YouTube and to put it over too much more, please. And that was a very simple situation host that had a lot of real world gigs. I got kind of cut off at the Pandemic and wanted to do a live show. And, of course, winter trained on camera fully. It's a bit of a learning curve, the learning technical stuff. And so it becomes like I just want to be the talent And so it was asked me to run that board and, yeah, so what I do is to start off in the real world. The entertainment consulting side was more for, like DJs and florist and photographers. I wanted to get their brand out there in the Southern California wedding space because I'm not sure if your listeners know this Southern California's most popular place in the country. Get married 50,000 weddings so yourself that pie. But as far as like your own, like the Web shows and stuff like that, that's part of it to consulting work. People have questions about what's the best strategy that also and then my own network has grown because of it because basically apply for any kind of aid. I had to basically show the government that I'm legitimate. I have to actually like, document everything and show them the books, all that stuff, too. So I felt more real doing that now with a virus on the loose than ever before. So when you start teaching people about this, do they normally come to you from scratch, where they have no concept whatsoever of what's going on? So do they even understand the difference between a DSLR and Webcam and all that kind of fun stuff? Or is it kind of know? And we're going from from the bottom up, everyone's either kick the tires, and so I say that I mean, like, is either going with no knowledge whatsoever or the Google University graduates Because you know what I heard You can drop 10 grand on a rig, But if you don't have any content to put on it, then what? Like what's that like? It sure is nice. So when you start doing this development and you've assisted these people in regard to actually moving forward and doing all the stuff they do, do they bring you all kinds of different kind of content that I mean, are you seeing a little bit of everything or they looking especially specifically what you're doing inside of your space? I think people look and see what I'm doing as far as the whole structure and writing. That's one thing no one really takes time to look at, how your show should be structured because you got to give people the Big Mac. So you know what it's like every week. What I've seen is that everyone has their own flavor, whether it's the thing I wouldn't touch, like fantasy or things I cannot touch, like Mexican American culture. What I've seen is a kind of a cool like a graduate class and how people took the information interpreted so are you gonna do? Are you gonna do one of these sessions to where you kind of have a master class where a blueprint where people can sign up because, you know, that's the most popular thing. Now I have a master class. I have a blueprint that you can you can follow and copy for the low price of the trailer videos. A lot more. It's something I think about. I write things down, but like, I feel like when I was in film school, I respected the teachers more. Who did stuff. It came back. I'm still on my journey. So I don't wanna be that guy who had the one short film being like, You know what I've seen in my experience. So maybe later down the line where the name is a household name. But as of now, I'm just building my okay. So as you've been doing your thing as you're saying, you've done a lot of stuff. You've been with some big companies. You've been with some medium sized companies. You've been some with some big name brands. How did you How did this door get there? I mean, the door was there. Did you beat it down. Did somebody help you with the door? How did this work out for you? So it's kind of a long and boring questions about trying to make it stop. Well, two things happen When I realized that Trajectory is in a straight line, I think it's very important. I think a lot of us, because school is so linear. Ninth grade, 10th grade, 11th grade, we think, Oh, job, job, job. And I'm awesome. The end. So going back to grad school. So I went to film school out here in California. That's why I got stuck here in this, uh, weird town of broken Dreams and Pompey. But But my first job really like we're serious. Job was at Fox, and I thought I was gonna be a Fox manager. Life was gonna be a salaryman. Uh, let me go on one fateful Thursday and had a crisis of conscience. What do I do and doing that and having the background video optimization and content clipping and all that stuff. So Okay, I'm gonna go into writing books and novels. Did that as well. I got into more of the stand up comedy that's basically writing humor for yourself and that's doing. Performing live became the EMC job. And I'm seeing that the teaching and teaching and I'm seeing led to motivational speaking, keynote speaking so like everything builds on something else. So, yeah, it's good to have a guide or what you think the big goal is. But you know, leaders have opened says Hey, you want to try this here to the pandemic? I'm on my but can't go outside and someone goes, Hey, man, we have this video game tournament. Do you want to cast it or commentate on it? I'm sure it's one of my favorite games to play. It's called Rocket League and I've been a rocket league cast over the past 10 months. I'm in the man there, too, so it's keeping it open for sure. So you're keeping everything open That so I mean, if you're even going as far as that now, or do you put that on your own channel and cast it out that way? So that was kind of like a repeater. It's kind of funny, because I when I first started, I was like, Well, I don't want to have that part of the global brand. Because what if I suck? I'm gonna have a brand new name is gonna be different. Personality is gonna be called No Von to write. My name is Ivanka. It's Italian for 90 because it's a car soccer game if you explain it. So I figured 30 minutes in the soccer game Top 90 Vonette 90 No Vonta. But what happens is someone googles you and it becomes completely moot. Hey, what are you doing? You know what I mean. So it's a separate channel. No Vonta RL on Twitter. But like, it's my face I linked to my other social media A don't do that very well hidden. It sounds like that. Well, I mean, it's funny that you say that because that was that was a product that was heavily marketed on W W E. That you referenced earlier became a fan, actually. Okay, very interesting. The third base in San Diego and the third birthday is, uh, they celebrated at Petco Park, which is a beautiful ballpark, uh, during comic con and they had a pre man Becky lynchings Xavier Woods there for assigning. So I converted to get my autograph. And on the Jumbotron is this crazy bonkers game. And they said, Hey, look. Thanks for coming out. Use this code. You can download a Smackdown banner and I was hooked. That was three years ago. Nice. So you mentioned Xavier would And Becky Lynch I'm gonna jump onto Savior would for just one moment the rebirth of G four TV. You know what? It's a long time coming. And it was It was a weird thing, because towards the end of the first one, I was like, You need to go. But the whole the whole appetite has changed. I mean, the sports are now I'm not going to be legitimate because it kind of always were being more accepted. We had ESPN play it because they had to play over the summer. People looking for organizations, guys and gals are investing in teams. And so, yeah, now it's time more than any to get back in that culture. I was a classic nerd, and by that I meant I got beat up for being so I am a veteran of the longer dot war. It's all that dirt stuff. Sure, bring it on. So do you think that the I guess the coming back or the reincarnation of G four TV has a lot to do with which, Yes, absolutely, I I see. Back when Twitch was Justin TV, I yeah, I like This is hard to describe, but fascinating. You know, it's like a deep tissue massage should hurt. But it's great, and you see that blow up and to see even people even before the pandemic, trying to find ways to monetize it. And they have their own channels, whether it's video games or talk shows. My twist channels mostly talk shows. I mean the idea of like, it's a whole community of people that support people with bits and they raid others. It's like this crazy thing. And yeah, you can put the fact that big corporate overload owns it. But what company doing stuff now is not owned by somebody. It was a bunch of cash. And so which is being there and I can see G four seeing that going, let's get back into it. Well, I don't with the company that owns it being, of course, Amazon. You kind of have to dig just a tad to be able to find it. It's not like they promote. I mean, unless you're running ads and you kind of see some Amazon stuff related there, but I don't really think it's that bad. I think it's a really good service for what it offers, because you can find a little bit of everything. And then some, at least on there. I understand the ideas of giant companies, please. But it's so convenient, bro. I know that some people are kind of like, Oh, I'll do x y z dot tv because it's different. But I'm just saying what one button? And then come to my house and things I don't need, You know? I mean, it was everywhere they, the cloud services everywhere. They are just going to be part of our life. That's their air. So how is your love for mixer? Did you care for it? Did you care for it? How was the general feeling? So I was an Xbox guy. I understand that that for a long time PlayStation got smart and they had a stronger hardware for a long time community pretty much ingrained. And even now in this generation, the series except it's a superior machine. But no one wants to buy it. So maybe it was fine was one touch was button. It was It was great. Uh, but I realized it was a problem in describing what it was without describing the competition. Oh, it's like twitch, but that's that's dead in the water. No one's ever like an Oreo is a hydroxyl, but no, they know what Orioles. So I knew it was a diving platform. It's only a matter of time. Well, I mean And then, of course. What? What? Facebook acquiring it now, Whether being I think it's f b dot g or something along those lines, I haven't been on it since, Right? I get it. I I feel like Facebook needs to spin off some of these like it's just too cluttered. Like I'm gonna buy some used tires, watch a video game and find a date on the same platform. This is weird. Oh, man. So let me jump back. Just a hair, because you did say something earlier about how you are motivational speaker now as long as well, as a comedian. So do you think that by actually doing part of your comedy and you get to go practice or you practice your comedy speeches. This is kind of helps your motivational speeches because you almost have to test the waters with some of the stuff. You kind of feel that it's helped it out. Absolutely. I think it's for the motivational speakers, part comedy, part material and understanding, structure and jokes. And you have to have a point. I guess you can't ramble on forever because people will tune out. But also like the instagram social media, like I am so done with fast food like captions like Believe in yourself. What does that mean when the bills, or do I believe that you're going to pay for it? Believe I don't know how much believing right? Exactly. No one tell you nothing, whatever. And so I think a lot of that comes with the ground level stuff. So the motivations I do are more about, like pushing that extra to do less thing. The small steps, um, for me personally, my angle angle discipline don't say gimmick, either. That's that's my history, that I used to weigh £335. And so my motivation comes from that about taking that one step, taking the taking the smaller cheeseburger. You know what I mean? Understanding It's a small thing. So to keep it real, those are those are personalities. You got to how people connect with you back to my Donald Trump point back to my wrestling. But But, yeah, the moment you go on saying you like what you need to do is don't care. People think it's like we've heard it from everyone on the planet. What are you giving me? You know, when I hear stuff like that, I think automatically to Brewster's millions with Richard Pryor. Very, very old movie in regards of when? When you don't vote for me, I don't believe anything they're saying, and then everybody ended up voting for him. But it's a lot. It seems like a lot of that angle. If you really think about it to an extent, because we kind of get a lot of the stuff. Same repackage, and it's very different to find somebody who says No, I don't want you to tell you something that applies to nothing. So and you've done things that have changed for you. So as you've done that, is that why you look at it differently than most well, there's also that formula of what they call relatability. Everybody wants to be more relatable than anything else. And so there's that odd balance of bragging of what you've done but try to be vulnerable. So we will see a lot of time on social media. Someone like in a three piece suit hanging in front of a car, be like L l l forgot my wife's anniversary. It's like, Okay, we'll get what you're doing. You know what I mean? Like like even though I won't say it's a formula applies to me, I want to make sure that this is actually things I've lived through. I think that the nugget of reality is what matters. And so the moment I'm talking about you, don't you just hate it? We have to refuel your jet in Dubai. You'll know it's not me at all, you know what I mean, So make sure it's legitimate. Well, that's funny, because that reminds me of the marketing that they did for the Cadillac El are now. This is a car that is the identical to the Chevy Bolt, except that it has some fans of your trips, and they made it sound that it was supposed to be for the elite personnel in regards of what they were doing. The car was $90,000. When you can get a Chevy Volt for 30 and all it was was the exact same base with the Cadillac brand on there. So it almost sounds like that's some of the portions that you're looking at in regards of. I'm not going to be the guy. I mean, I would love to be the guy that has a jet, but I know that I wouldn't waste that kind of money. But that's how you're looking at it, right? You are a math in my own heart. This is what I do because I'm a nerd. I like to look at corporate branding and ownership and stuff like that. So and different Brandon and like, especially what comes to like cars. I'm a Mercury guy. I like Mercury design. I thought it was superior. You couldn't convince me it was nothing more than expensive Ford, but that's what I'm saying. Like I remember that. Remember the Aston Martin Signet? Remember that car? Basically it was like a car that Aston Martin had to make to make sure the fleet was under the EPA or the equivalent of the European PIA like aspirin mileage. And it was like a Fiat re battery back. But it was like again, like $90,000 for this Aston Martin Signet. He was like, Who was the driver? But you're saying, Yeah, there is a There's a nugget of what you are at the core and you can stretch beyond that like I can wear a suit. I can wear a T shirt and jeans, for example. But the moment I'm wearing a top hat and tails, you know something's up. And I'm just a kid from Brooklyn. My parents are still out there. My neighborhood knows me from from day one, but the moment you straight from that, people go. Okay, I'm onboard. Yeah. So the moment you get out of the jeans and T shirt, people might have some questions that I mean, you don't always have questions walking around town package on our show, right? You can say whatever you want. Does that matter? We We do. We do whatever you want to do. So, as you've been in California over the last year during the pandemic. So some news was released today that California ranks as number 28 with the actual most cases that are out there, about 9000 to 2. Every 100,000 people. So they've taken lockdown extreme. Closed everything down. Now I'm gonna give you the side of the planet that I'm on which the numbers are almost identical. 9000 to every 100,000, and we're ranked number 27. Yeah. What do you think? What do you think they're in regards to the two different options that they've won about I. Your opinion, of course, of course, is one of the opinion question I didn't really know per amounts, but I knew full number of population over infectious risk recovery versus death. And it was like Florida and California was so similar. I mean, if you look at the data, they're kind of like neck and neck. But what I have noticed, depending on what side of the aisle you reside on, there is a bit of a propaganda, you know? You know, that crazy crackpot Newsome Bill, businesses are crippled. We kind of are. But they're terrible out there, and I'm like, Well, I was Florida even better now it gets weird for those who don't know my stand up. I grew up in a two party household. My mom is very progressive. My dad is actually a registered Republican. And so those kind of battles happened all the time in my household. But I'm like, we're not getting any better. Like this Virus doesn't stop and go. Whoa, Florida. We're done. You know, I mean, because if it had not into it, wouldn't even enter, gets a weird steak. You know what I'm saying? This is something we all have to band together and get around with. But gyms are opening today. Uh, indoor dining is opening today as of March 15th. And so maybe we're on on that, flattening the curve or whatever, but I knew for months ago like this infection rate was pretty much even stevens across the board. So have you thought about doing what a lot of Californians are doing and running off to Texas becoming the tech, the California of Texas or Texas? California And we want to take a look at it. Oh, Texas doesn't want them. Oh, I know five because because, like actual Californians are here and They're nice people and they're great people. But it's just people like us transplant. We ruin it for everybody. I'm from New York. I go back and like tourists because I've lived there so long and and so you can go to Texas all you want. I've been to Austin, Beautiful City, but the one thing you notice that there are Texans there are transplant to Austin. And there's California transplants in Austin. It was almost like a third city in that city. And so I'd rather not. No, no, no, I I remember being in Texas because I grew up in Texas for many, many years, and I remember that people said for a long period of time that Austin would be the next Hollywood. This was back in 96. I mean, we're in 21 right now, and I still think they're still having the same conversation. But Austin has changed from what it what it was. But if you go to any other city in Texas, it's still Texas. I mean, it's not, it's not progressive, it's not nothing. I mean, that sounds wrong because I'm kind of putting a blanket statement there, but it's not as advanced as Austin, depending. If you look at as Austin as advanced, I mean their their motto is Keep Austin weird. This is Jay Allen show. Okay. 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